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Post by Drew Daniel on May 16, 2013 11:47:45 GMT -5
Hey guys! Congrats to both of you on makin it to the end, you both played a decent game and you should be proud of it.
I'll just ask you both some questions and I'll vote based on your answers. Please no bull shit (=
- Do you guys have any idea who I was REALLY loyal to throughout the whole game? and who I made a final 2 deal with in the game? (knowing that making that deal doesn't necessarily make me loyal to them)
- Can you tell me why me specifically out of all the jurors should vote for you to win this game over the one sitting next to you? In other words, what makes you so special to "Drew" to make me vote for you?
- Give me a title on how you think I played this game explaining why.
- I want you to predict who will each juror vote for between the 2 of you and what makes you think that.
James- You said you would be "perfectly fine" losing to David and you did know he was a bigger threat to win in the final 2, um why!? Do you guys know each other outside the game or something? Like BFFs? Were you playing for second so you didn't really care if you would lose to him?
Dominic- I understand why you evicted me over David even though he would definitely beat you in the final 2, or not? Am I wrong here? If so correct me. What do you think your chances would have been if you had been in the final 2 with him? Is it smarter to keep a huge jury threat over someone who's not a jury threat at all? I just want you to convince me cause it doesn't seem like a smart move at all going to the FINAL 4! I would understand it if it was like f8/7, but f4?
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Post by Dominic Briones on May 16, 2013 12:25:45 GMT -5
- I would like you to explain to me how was evicting David over me a good move? Another question, do you think you would have been able to beat him in the final 2?
I noted this in Rachel and Joe's threads, but I'll restate it here for ya! I wanted to make sure I had the BEST chance of getting to the final 3 from the final 4. Having you in the final 4 over David meant a greater chance that I could have the sole vote cast against me with all of the given scenarios. I wasn't 100% sure who you'd vote out, but I felt MUCH safer with my fate in David's hands rather than yours. Plus, even though you messaged me and told me you were voting to keep me the round before (and you did vote to keep me, which I was glad for), I heard that you really wanted me gone, and had Joe agreed to vote me out, that you would have done the same in a heartbeat. So that was my major reasoning for feeling that taking you out over David was the best move for me.
I think I would have had a VERY hard time beating David, especially now seeing that the jury seems to think his game was quite stellar. With that said though, I feel like my game was very similar to David's. We made most of our "moves" together, and where he had James, I had Joe. We both avoided nomination until final 6 for me, and final 5 for him. We also both had the ability to do well in comps (even both winning, he had one, I had two). So... In the end, I feel like he probably would have won, but I do whole-heartedly think that I played just as good of a game as him. I respected David's game play completely because it was essentially the same game I was playing, and at the same time, I recognized that this was a potential hurdle that I would have to overcome if I wanted to win. I just hope that everyone who respected David's game would see that I played a very similar game.
- Do you guys have any idea who I was REALLY loyal to throughout the whole game? and who I made a final 2 deal with in the game? (knowing that making that deal doesn't necessarily make me loyal to them)
I'm guessing not? Lol. If you're stating it that way, then I assume you had some deals that I didn't know about. Because, for all I knew, you were with me/David as a final 3. I assume you had made a deal with Joe as well, but aside from that, I never really knew where you stood completely. I always thought that David and I could keep you as a vote in our back pocket, but naturally, as the game went on, I found it harder and harder to find a time we were both on AIM, so I could only predict what you might do. If you had other deals, and a final 2 with someone else, they you really did keep it hidden well.
- Can you tell me why me out of all the jurors should vote for you to win this game?
Honestly, you were the one juror who I struggled to come up with a personal reason why I deserved your vote. Maybe I don't, because I'm not sure how close you were with James... I can honestly say that I feel I played a much stronger social/strategic game than James, so if that's something you value, then I would deserve your vote based on that. If you value a physical game greater, then I don't deserve your vote. And if you're basing it overall, then I still feel like I outplayed James in 2 out of the 3 main areas (social, strategy, physical).
- Give me a title on how you think I played this game explaining why.
Sleeper. I didn't even have you on my radar until you used that PoV. I felt you were someone who was easily expendable up until that point (hey, you're asking us to be honest! lol). I'm very curious to know how the game might have changed if you hadn't used the PoV, but had come to me instead about keeping Joe. I know you thought I was with David/James, and I was, but I was also with Joe, and so you saving him was GREAT news for me even if it meant me going up on the block, since I then was banking on my f2 deals with David and Joe to keep me in the game.
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Post by Dominic Briones on May 16, 2013 12:28:51 GMT -5
I will edit my answers to include what I missed. I must have worked on a reply while you were still adding/editing stuff!
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Post by Dominic Briones on May 16, 2013 12:39:08 GMT -5
- I want you to predict who will each juror vote for between the 2 of you and what makes you think that.
Joe - Going into the finals, I thought I had Joe's vote. Now, I'm not so sure. I'd say I'm 75% on Joe seeing that I'm being honest with him about staying true to our final 2 and hopefully voting for me over James.
David - I feel like I have a 50/50 chance at David's vote. If he respect my game for being the most like his, then he'll vote for me. However, I started to believe that David's true number 1 ally was James in the end, so if he votes based on that, then I feel I don't have his vote.
Drew - I honestly can't even begin to predict where your vote will go. So I'll just be optimistic and say I have a 50/50 chance.
Dani - I feel I have an 80% chance at Dani's vote. I was always trying to keep the line of communication open with Dani, even if she wasn't the most active. And I truly was considering her as a viable ally to swing things against the guys if I needed to. Plus, I was always kind to Dani.
Chima - I'd like to think I have Chima's vote out of respect. I was fully honest with Chima, probably the most out of all the people that I was "against." I never lied to her about going after her. And despite all that, she still was mature, and I respected that about her and made sure she knew that.
Rachel - Yes, I lied to Rachel, but I don't think she's the type who would vote against me for that reason alone. I think Rachel will vote for the person who she thinks played the best game, and since I think she valued David's gameplay a lot, I really hope that she will see that I played the same game in my own way and vote for me. I'm maybe 65% on whether or not I can get Rachel's vote.
Keesha - I don't think I have a chance at all at Keesha's vote. But that doesn't mean I give up. I answered her questions as honestly and fully as I could. I'm here to win, and I'm not above trying to get every vote I can, even if they seem hopeless.
But in the end, I'm not naive enough to think that I have a single vote locked in my favor. Clearly, I must've done something differently than David for everyone to think that my game play was not as stellar as his was, even though I think I still played a great game. In the end, I just hope people don't vote bitterly because I made moves and kept my options open. I don't feel like I treated anyone poorly enough for them to despise me so much that they would vote against me for that reason.
If I didn't mange to answer any of your questions, just let me know!
Thanks, Drew.
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Post by James Rhine on May 17, 2013 0:11:18 GMT -5
Do you guys have any idea who I was REALLY loyal to throughout the whole game? and who I made a final 2 deal with in the game? (knowing that making that deal doesn't necessarily make me loyal to them) I don't think anyone can 100% really know who anyone was truly loyal to until the game is over and the diary rooms are open, but it was tricky with you because not much game was spoken and you didn't give much that would lead anyone to guess where your allegiances lie. What I know for sure is that there was a final 4 deal involving myself, David, Dominic and you but that was tarnished by yourself after you used the veto on Joe. You and I also had a sort of unspoken agreement to make it far together and possibly final 2 but there wasn't anything concrete thrown at the table. I did make myself believe that you had a final 2 deal wit Joe because I just couldn't understand why you would use the veto on him. Now I'm really curious to know what you were doing lol because clearly you don't think anyone knew haha. Can you tell me why me specifically out of all the jurors should vote for you to win this game over the one sitting next to you? In other words, what makes you so special to "Drew" to make me vote for you? Although I don't agree with you using the veto on Joe, I do appreciate the fact that you made a move and wasn't scared of doing so. I'm all for people doing something when they have the power to do so and I did so in getting out Rachel and Joe whereas I don't think Dom was really responsible to the extent that I was in getting others evicted. Sure he did so with Keesha but that was with the help of David, who came up with the idea. Furthermore I know that you respect the game of Big Brother and should know that an overall well-rounded game is more respected than one that relies more on social ties and in a way being dragge to the end. So I would hope you would respect that and vote for me  Give me a title on how you think I played this game explaining why. Dom so stole the title I was gonna use! Lol. I have been using the title of sleeper for you throughout most of the game because I was just never worried about you much because I didn't think you could cause any serious damage in the game. If you don't want the same answer, then I guess I would call you a Porsche because I felt your game was kind of similar to her's. She really did much of nothing the first half of the game although she performed well in challenges which you did as well. Not until the double eviction did she win a veto and made a move in not saving Jeff....and in you in my eyes kind of "woke up" when you won the veto and used it on Joe, I want you to predict who will each juror vote for between the 2 of you and what makes you think that. Instead of giving percentages and whatnot like Dom, I will actually give a prediction on who the jurors will vote for. KEESHA: She seems to be pretty angry with Dominic lol so I think her vote will go my way. RACHEL: She's a smart one and understands the game well.. My gut tells me that her vote is going to go to Dom  CHIMA: Although it's harder to say for Chima because she hasn't asked any questions yet, I would hope her vote came my way because although she lied to me, I kept her safe when I was HoH. However, I have a feeling it will go to Dominic because I think out of the girls, she would have ended up playing most like Dominic. DANI: Once again, no questions form her yet so difficult to predict, but I will guess her vote will go to me because I really feel like I tried the hardest to try and communicate with her and all of our conversations were genuine. DREW: You're a tricky one  While I do feel the most iffy about your vote, I will predict that it will go to me (?) because I would hope you value the hard work I did to get here. DAVID: David's vote goes to me (Please?) I know he knows that no one was more loyal to him than I was and he said it best: "you were a perfectly well rounded player." JOE: I would hope Joe respects the way I played the game as I think it was most similar to his, but something tells me that he is still a bit hurt over his eviction and since Dom and he had a final 2 deal, I think his vote will go towards Dominic. You said you would be "perfectly fine" losing to David and you did know he was a bigger threat to win in the final 2, um why!? Do you guys know each other outside the game or something? Like BFFs? Were you playing for second so you didn't really care if you would lose to him? When I say that I would be content with losing to David it's because he was my ally and if I can't win, I would want him to. That doesn't mean that I would just lay down and completely give up and ask all the jurors to vote for David to win. That's just silly lol. No, I didn't know David prior to the game. The only other time I have been to the finals of a BB game, I sat next to my number 1 ally and lost the vote 4-3 because she played a spectacular social game like David did. I think it shows the type of person I am: a very loyal one and I hope you respect that. |
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Post by Dominic Briones on May 17, 2013 6:56:52 GMT -5
First up, I don't think it's fair to give David credit for the idea to take out Keesha. Especially if I'm going to take all the slack for that move (hi Keesha!  ). I'm not saying that the idea is my property and that it belongs to me, but I still would have tried to take Keesha out that round whether or not David was on board. It can be his idea too, but it wasn't like I wasn't thinking about it until he "spoke it into existence." Going into that round, I wanted Keesha or Chima to go, having pegged them as the 2 major threats to me at that point. We couldn't discuss our nominations with one another for international, but I STILL gave Keesha 2 points and Chima 1. So clearly, the idea was in my head before the nominees were even named. Also, I love how James says I was dragged to the end. Clearly, to some extent, Joe and James were both thinking about cutting me out in the final 4 and final 3, which doesn't sound to me like I was dragged. But when I think of someone being dragged to the end, I think of someone taking a person simply because they haven't proved to do anything and they will be an easy person to win against. I don't think that's the case here. I set myself up to have the best chance I could, with the circumstances given, to get to the end by strategically making deals and targeting the right people at the right time. That doesn't equate to being dragged in my opinion. And finally, as James keeps pointing to his "well-rounded game" I ask myself how his social/strategic moves are any better than my 2 comp wins. He's here because he won challenges week after week, and I'm here because I made strong connections with the right people, I took risks, and went all in on the smartest moves that I had at the time I made them. I had 0 votes against me, and of my 3 nominations, 2 of them were forced (final 4 and final 3; I had to be a nominee), and the other one was James choosing to keep David safe over me when we were the only 2 options for him, which I saw coming a mile away. While James tried to play a UTR game in the beginning (his words, not mine) that didn't even work and landed him on the block International week. I played from week 1, even trying to control the vote for Kara to stay over Chima and winning a PoV challenge in week 3 that I didn't even feel I needed. I wasn't hiding behind anything. I played hard to win every challenge, and when I didn't get HoH power, I went with plan B or plan C whenever I had to. My social game, for the most part, was my backup plan coming into this game. I usually rely on my physical game. I ask what James would have done had he not won as many comps?
"Instead of giving percentages and whatnot like Dom, I will actually give a prediction on who the jurors will vote for." If the percentage was greater than 50% in my favor, then I obviously would predict a vote for me. I was just trying to gauge how strong I felt my prediction was. If I put 50/50, then I predict it could honestly go either way. |
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Post by Drew Daniel on May 17, 2013 9:39:44 GMT -5
Thanks guys! Good luck
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