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Post by joe on May 15, 2013 22:51:10 GMT -5
Oh hai guys. Congrats on making it to the final 2.
That ends the niceness.
Going into it, I was really thinking that I would not be bitter. But the more I thought about it, the more bitter I got. Especially, James, when I talked to you because I all but convinced myself to vote for Dominic right then. Anyway, let's get started.
James. This has been bothering me FOREVER. Why did you basically refuse to work with me? I seriously was pushing to work with you since the F7 and you never wanted to, and I want to know why. Also, at any point in our final conversation, did you actually consider taking me to the Final 2? No matter what you say though, it boils down to the fact that you really never worked with me. You never told me about the broalliance, I heard it from everyone but you. You constantly nominated and targetted me. All I did was honestly try to work with you and you continuously shut me down. So, why the eff should I vote for you?
Dominic. You know, all of a sudden, you seem really loyal to me but I am having a hard time believing it. Especially since when talking to James, I did my best to not throw you under the bus and say bad things about you, only to find out that you were driving the bus over my corpse. I'm looking for some honesty out of you, since I've been honest with you since moment 1. Knowing that you targeted me several times throughout the game, even though we had a F2, why should I vote for you? Now, I know you didn't win a lot of comps, but I have to applaud you because you were never really a target and even when you were on the block, you were considered the pawn for the most part. What was the most important move that you made that helped get you to the finals?
Both. Normally, I would ask how I helped get you to the finals, but I KNOW what I did to get you both there. I'm also a firm believer in that everyone gets the place that they deserve. So, Why does each juror deserve the place that they got, as in, what was their fatal flaw? Also, this game is about having fun. What move did you have the most fun making? And finally, in ONE sentence, why do you deserve to win?
These questions aren't THAT hard. I'm very on the fence so the answers to these are very important. Good luck.
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Post by James Rhine on May 16, 2013 1:03:02 GMT -5
Why did you basically refuse to work with me? I knew it would never work out between you and I in the long run. You had your final 2 with Dominic so I think I would have gotten the short end of the stick. Come final 6, I did want you out and when you stayed, I really did consider working with you. However after that it was all about winning the competitions and I didn't want to jeopardize anything I had with David or Dominic. I play the game staying loyal to only a few people, and I felt it was too late to start anything with you. Also, at any point in our final conversation, did you actually consider taking me to the Final 2? I had always known that I would be taking Dominic with me over you as I honestly felt that I would have a better shot against him over you. During that final conversation, I did everything I could to use whatever Dominic told me about you and create any friction between the two of you. Did I consider taking you? Of course I did, because you always have to look at the flip side of the coin. When I learned that you and him had a final 2, that's when I started looking at the benefits of taking you. However, Dom was honest about it with me whereas you were not and that was a big factor in my decision. Why the eff should I vote for you? Vote for me because I played a better overall game. I think I did the best out of the whole cast in the competitive, strategic, and social department, collectively, whereas Dom did not. Also, I think I played a much more honest game and you said it yourself that I have been alot more straightforward with you than Dominic has the past few rounds. I think faulting someone for not wanting to work with you is not reason enough to not vote for that person to win the game. Ultimately, I went with my gut in terms of who to stick with and I think it payed off as I am sitting in the final 2, whereas if I went with you, things may have been different. Why does each juror deserve the place that they got, as in, what was their fatal flaw? I touched on this in Keesha's thread, but I'll answer the question nonetheless: KEESHA's flaw was not being able to get into a solid alliance that could carry her through the game. Also many people felt sketched out by her as they didn't feel she was being honest with them. RACHEL's flaw is obviously trusting Dom and David during the International week as that gave me reason to go after her the next week without making a big enemy. She was just the total package which is something that she just couldn't control. CHIMA's flaw was also siding with Rachel week 4 and lying to me about how she voted that week. She constantly lied and that cause people to lose plenty of trust and not want to work with her. DANIELE is a tricky one. I think her flaw was just not being active enough. If she had conversed more with people and gotten good with different groups, she may have gotten farther. Although her eviction from the game has largely to do with Drew using the veto. DREW, in my opinion, made a terrible move in saving you with the veto as David and Dom learned that he was coming after them and is willing to make bold decisions. In the end, his decision to not do the PoV competition, cause his nomination and because of the above reason, he was evicted. DAVID just couldn't work a deal with you (Joe  ) in the end. Dom and you had a final 2 and there was no way around that. Him or I not winning the veto led to his downfall. JOE, you have two flaws in my opinion. One, is obviously blowing your chance at final HoH by doing Part 2 incorrectly. The other I think is replacing me with Drew on the block at final 5. I think it would have been better for your game to put up Dom and have a big target in Dom and David leave that week. Ultimately, I was glad with your decision as I wanted Drew to leave that week. What move did you have the most fun making? The move I had the most fun with was lying to Danielle about her backdoor. Everyone knew that Danielle was annoying and played up her character a bit too much and while I felt the same way, at times I laughed because I had no clue what she would say next. Her and I had very lengthy conversations where she would just babble about god knows what and in some twisted way, I enjoyed lying to her and reassuring her that she had the votes to stay. Once she was evicted, that night she talked to me again and just went off on me, swearing etc. and I couldn't help but laugh. And finally, in ONE sentence, why do you deserve to win?I deserve to win because I played a much more well-rounded game in which I won competitions, made alliances, stayed loyal and was as honest as I could be and I think that is something that is not only respectable but also well deserving. Thanks for the questions, Eagle Eye Joe!! Wash your hands. |
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Post by Dominic Briones on May 16, 2013 9:19:39 GMT -5
Dominic. You know, all of a sudden, you seem really loyal to me but I am having a hard time believing it. Especially since when talking to James, I did my best to not throw you under the bus and say bad things about you, only to find out that you were driving the bus over my corpse. I'm looking for some honesty out of you, since I've been honest with you since moment 1. Knowing that you targeted me several times throughout the game, even though we had a F2, why should I vote for you?
I'm not sure what specific statements or things I said that you're referring to in me throwing you under the bus. I'll be the first to admit that I had to say a lot of things and go along with a lot of things when talking to James/David so that I could hide my final 2 with you. David knew we were close, but I don't think that either David or James thought that I would actually side with you over them. At least not until the end when it might have been too late. I was never targeting you, and I guess that you'll only know this for sure when Diary Rooms are opened and the game is over. My final 2 with David was my top priority at first until right after you survived the vote against Lori. When you didn't hold it against me for not using the PoV, that showed me that you truly were 100% with me, and from that point until the final 4, I held you and David in equal regard, which was why it sucked in the final 6 when I knew David and James wanted you out.
In the final 4, I made my decision to side with you because it was inevitable that I had to choose between my f2 deals, and that's why I fought for the PoV. I knew David had James, and you had only me. I was prepared to get David's blood on my hands, but you won the PoV, so it didn't matter in the end. Losing your vote for the mere fact that you think I was after you would suck, since James openly admitted to trying to cause friction between us in the final 3. I could have EASILY went to James after I beat you in part 2 of the final HoH and made a deal with him to go to the end. He was literally telling me that I was 100% safe, even before I won part 2. But I didn't. I told him the truth, and said that I had a f2 with you from the first HoH when we worked together. Yes, I told him that I was upset and hurt by you for almost voting me out over David (which was the truth), but I never once went out of my way to slander your name for the sole purpose of getting to where I am now.
Finally, I feel I deserve your vote because I did have your back in the end when it would have mattered most. Had I won the final 4 PoV and/or the final HoH, in both cases, I would have proved that our final 2 was my top priority at that point. If you're going to vote against me for James, I would hope it would be because you felt he played a better game, and not because you're upset with me for thinking that I wasn't actually true to our final 2 deal.
Now, I know you didn't win a lot of comps, but I have to applaud you because you were never really a target and even when you were on the block, you were considered the pawn for the most part. What was the most important move that you made that helped get you to the finals?
I'm not sure I can really pinpoint one specific move that landed me here more than others. I've noted some of my key moves in Rachel's thread, as well as providing a week by week summary of where my head was in the game. I've even admitted that things didn't always go my way. But in the end, I think it was me always having a plan B in the back of my mind. When a target of mine would win a comp, I immediately began to think of what my best move was at that point. I do think that taking Drew out at final 5 was key. Even though it left David (a strong contender to win this game) in the house, it put me in what I thought was the best possible position in the final 4 to be able to make the final 3, even if I didn't win the PoV in the final 4. In my opinion, Final 4 is where you can sometimes make or break your game (right David?), and so I wanted to be there with the BEST chance of proceeding forward.
Both. Normally, I would ask how I helped get you to the finals, but I KNOW what I did to get you both there. I'm also a firm believer in that everyone gets the place that they deserve. So, Why does each juror deserve the place that they got, as in, what was their fatal flaw?
Joe - Using the PoV week 2 put a target on you that I don't think you ever really got rid of. This lead to you needing to win comps, which lead to people viewing you as a threat, causing almost everyone but me to want you out in the mid-game. Obviously, we could say that losing the final HoH is what did you in, but I wanted to trace it back to your overall gameplay. I think James picked to take me over you because you had racked up so many comp wins, which I'm not sure you would have needed if Rachel wouldn't have targeted you early.
David - David's flaw was that he was too much of a jury threat. Like me, he wasn't able to win many competitions, which put him in a vulnerable state.
Drew - Drew stepped up too late. I didn't view him as a worry to my game until he used that PoV. Fortunately, what he thought was a move for him ended up working against him.
Daniele - Simply not active enough. I'm not sure she could have convinced a jury of her deserving to win, even if she had made it farther since she didn't have a strong presence.
Chima - I think she got complacent. Perhaps this is just my perception, but I think that Chima could have been a lot more dangerous. Even when I was honest and up front with her about voting for her twice, she was way too calm and cool. Maybe she was planning something underneath all of that, but I don't think her ability transferred into practice, as it seemed she was capable of doing much more damage.
Rachel - Yes, trusting me was a downfall of hers. But I also would say that she pushed a little too hard to control James HoH week. I honestly would have probably targeted Chima that week had Rachel not been so adamant about getting David/Me on the block, and even then getting me backdoored. I know she felt she needed to try anything/everything she could, but this just made her stand out much more than Chima as the next one to need to go.
Keesha - With me, Keesha just never seemed focused on talking game, which made me realize she was completely a social threat and that she was relying on her connections with others. I'm not sure why others viewed her as a threat, but this was her fatal flaw in my perception.
Also, this game is about having fun. What move did you have the most fun making?
Unlike James, I don't feel I was just a vote for Danielle to leave. Next to Rachel, I feel like I was the one who really helped bring this idea to fruition. It was fun because Danielle was such a loose cannon, and it was only week 2, so making a "big move" was kind of exciting.
And finally, in ONE sentence, why do you deserve to win?
I played from DAY ONE to win this game (not UTR like James in the beginning), and I am not ok with/would not be ok with the possibility of getting second place like James said he would have been against David.
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Post by joe on May 16, 2013 12:49:49 GMT -5
Thanks guys.
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Post by Chima Simone on May 17, 2013 13:26:09 GMT -5
Chima - I think she got complacent. Perhaps this is just my perception, but I think that Chima could have been a lot more dangerous. Even when I was honest and up front with her about voting for her twice, she was way too calm and cool. Maybe she was planning something underneath all of that, but I don't think her ability transferred into practice, as it seemed she was capable of doing much more damage. One of my final DR entries is about me being disappointed for not living up to the villainess I could have been in this game. I really shouldn't have smoked so much ganj during this time period lol |
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